The EV fact thread

[Petrol Pete]

Because they all burst into flames, don't ya know.

Only take one to burst into flames on a crowded ferry . They have 'form' . Not a big deal at the moment , but someone in China appears to have little faith...

 

[Petrol Pete]

Re LeShuttle, I just checked online (planning a trip to the Continent in April), and there seem to be no restrictions at current on EVs.

Regarding the Chinese holiday makers.... I wonder, how did all these EVs get to Hainan Island in the first place....? Or did the ferry companies change the rules last-minute?

The Chinese new year runs about 16 days, my guess is they drifter over there in batches of 18 over the days and completely forgot the rules when they all tried to get back to the mainland.

 

[clk320x]

That only a battery every 400,000 miles or so....seems reasonable....a motor every 100k?....less so. But apparently the later ones are different and are good for 300k plus.

You’re right - the first gen RWD motors made a whining noise due to a bad bearing - they replaced them and refurb the old ones. Less down time than a repair.

The new motors are trouble free on the whole.

 

[clk320x]

Yeah, right.

? 50k is an abnormality not the norm… I know plenty of high mile ones… have you never heard of an ICE vehicle needing major repair within 8 years of its life?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I almost bought an EV today, well financed one. A Honda e:Ny1 for £179 per month, no deposit and 6,000 miles per annum. They were inundated with enquiries so up to £229 per month after lunchtime.

Still a sensational deal I’d say. It has a 256 mile range, so it should manage 170-ish miles woyhout too much trouble. Turns out that it’s a group 39 Insuramce so not great for Junior D.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I almost bought an EV today, well financed one. A Honda e:Ny1 for £179 per month, no deposit and 6,000 miles per annum. They were inundated with enquiries so up to £229 per month after lunchtime.

Still a sensational deal I’d say. It has a 256 mile range, so it should manage 170-ish miles woyhout too much trouble. Turns out that it’s a group 39 Insuramce so not great for Junior D.

I was so close, it’s the sort of deal that I always miss out on - this time I was in on it early but just didn’t like it enough. I could have parked it next to the Astra

 

[Smiley]

After 3,466 posts a whole day goes by without a single EV fact.

 

[ALFAitalia]

There have only been about three actual "facts" since it started in November!!!

 

[SmartAmg]

There have only been about three actual "facts" since it started in November!!!

Beat me to it, and probably 3 is being generous.

 

[markjay]

There have only been about three actual "facts" since it started in November!!!

Four... including this one

 

[davymead]

Britain considering slapping tariffs on Chinese EVs after 'invasion' claim

The UK is considering investigating whether or not Beijing is distorting the European market.

www.express.co.uk

 

[markjay]

Britain considering slapping tariffs on Chinese EVs after 'invasion' claim

The UK is considering investigating whether or not Beijing is distorting the European market.

www.express.co.uk

"considering investigating"? That sound like Sir Humphrey Appleby's speak for "do nothing"...

 

[davymead]

Apple pulls plug on e-car project as Aston Martin delays first model

Car manufacturers are grappling with weaker demand for EVs than expected with buyers put off by fears over insufficient charging infrastructure and expensive price tags.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[SmartAmg]

Didn't fancy an Apple car, anyway.

 

[markjay]

Apple pulls plug on e-car project as Aston Martin delays first model

Car manufacturers are grappling with weaker demand for EVs than expected with buyers put off by fears over insufficient charging infrastructure and expensive price tags.

www.dailymail.co.uk

From the article:
"High interest rates are among the reasons behind a slowdown in demand for usually pricier EVs - which can be as much as £10,000 more expensive than their petrol or diesel equivalents"

From:

OECD Economic Outlook, Interim Report September 2023

The near-term global outlook is shaped by the increasingly visible impact of monetary policy tightening by most major central banks and stresses in the Chinese economy. Global growth is projected to slow, remaining below trend in 2023-24, while inflation moderates but remains above target. Key...

www.oecd.org

"...growth outlook remains weak. With monetary policy becoming increasingly visible and a weaker-than-expected recovery in China, global growth in 2024 is projected to be lower than in 2023."

Inflation and interest rates going up, the economy is not growing as expected. Not a great time for spreading the use of expensive new technology among consumers.

 

[davymead]

Blimey, just when you thought it was safe to get the bus home ….

Fire fears force recall of 2,000 British electric buses

Almost 2,000 electric buses build in the UK but powered by batteries made in China worth in the region of £800m have been recalled over fears their heating and air con units could catch fire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

To be fair, this thread has enabled companies like Mercedes, Toyota and Aston Martin to reconsider their plans for the EV transition.

Without our insight, and concern about cost and performance, Mercedes might still be going 100% "flattened potato" by 2035.

How MB hadn't noticed that most of the Southern Hemisphere doesn't give a stuff about EV's yet is hard to understand.

Even when Europeans & North Americans are still "a bit sceptical about the cost / benefit.

https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/mercedes-hits-126-return-cars-headwinds-dent-profits

Mercedes CEO warns that EVs are ‘many years away’ from costing the same as traditional cars amid cooling demand for vehicles with a plug

Mercedes and its peers have grown more cautious about battery technology as sales of EVs this year are set to grow at the slowest rate since 2019.

fortune.com

 

[Deleted member 55947]

Blimey, just when you thought it was safe to get the bus home ….

Fire fears force recall of 2,000 British electric buses

Almost 2,000 electric buses build in the UK but powered by batteries made in China worth in the region of £800m have been recalled over fears their heating and air con units could catch fire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

They unleashed a pox on the World in 2020 without remorse, selling dodgy batteries to Europeans won’t even tickle their conscience.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

They unleashed a pox on the World in 2020 without remorse, selling dodgy batteries to Europeans won’t even tickle their conscience.

To be fair, if China had spent the last decade putting their 1,800,000,000 cyclists and walkers into ICE vehicles, we'd be well and truly stuffed when it comes to climate change.

China has half a million pure EV buses in service. How many buses do we have? 2,000?

Not that anyone cares if Texas catches fire, California gets big snow, Ski resorts disappear, or Norfolk goes under water.

 

[SmartAmg]

Blimey, just when you thought it was safe to get the bus home ….

Fire fears force recall of 2,000 British electric buses

Almost 2,000 electric buses build in the UK but powered by batteries made in China worth in the region of £800m have been recalled over fears their heating and air con units could catch fire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Don't believe a word.