Update - 240 volt dual action polisher (porter cable)

[Goldfish11]

Just to keep everyone upto date.

You may remember in June there was talk of Autopia ( http://store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?autopia+MBWu4u+index.html+ ) releasing a 240volt CE approved dual action "Ultimate Detailing Machine". The launch date was Autumn 2007. I have been in touch with the team at Autopia and it seems the 240volt version release is delayed until the January. But the 11Ovolt system with transformer is great (and you can use it safely in the rain ) I can not wait to see the 240volt and already have one on back order.

I have just received a mailing from Meguiars. Meguiars are also due to release a 240volt dual action polisher and are hoping to have this available for christmas. (Meguairs - The Enthusiast - Issue 4 Autumn 2007)

So the good news is a 240v version should be available very soon.

The Autopia version is looking like really good value with the dollar so strong around £80 not sure about the price of the Meguiars but I am still getting my stuff from Autopia and it is a bargain with the dollar strength.

 

[PaulE230]

This 240V polisher always seems to get pushed back. I think I will belive it when I see it

 

[marcos]

We run on 230v in this country and why would the 110v one be ok in the rain

 

[Goldfish11]

We run on 230v in this country and why would the 110v one be ok in the rain

Because you keep the transformer in the garage and then if the polisher outside gets wet you dont kill your self. A shock from 110 is better than 230 (in theory anyway)

 

[marcos]

Because you keep the transformer in the garage and then if the polisher outside gets wet you dont kill your self. A shock from 110 is better than 230 (in theory anyway)

Believe me it can still do you some nasty damage and you will still bugger the unit up if it gets wet.

 

[Moose]

Believe me it can still do you some nasty damage and you will still bugger the unit up if it gets wet.

Yes you will damage the unit. Although why anyone would be machine polishing in the rain is beyond me

They are however, safer. That's why builders wander around with little yellow boxes!!

We run on 230v in this country and why would the 110v one be ok in the rain

I always thought that we (we as in UK) were 240v

 

[fredfloggle]

Safer possibly , safe not necessarily .

110V (55V CTE) will still kill you , it is safer with regard to a shock from "phase" to earth , but from "phase" to "phase" , particluarly across the chest can cause fibrillation and death .

It would be advisable not not polish your car in the wet .

 

[stats007]

I always use an RCD with this sort of equipment anyway.

I thought we were slowly moving down to 220V?

 

[marcos]

The standard at the minute is 230v and has been for the past few years. Your voltage will be anywhere between 210v and 245v but the standard is now 230v.

 

[robert.saunders]

Regardless of voltage, why would you polish your car in the rain anyway?

 

[glojo]

They are however, safer. That's why builders wander around with little yellow boxes!!

LITTLE!! did you say little yellow box! The blooming thing weighs thirty thousand tonnes Well maybe not thirty thousand, but by crikey they are heavy. I bought my wife a little trolley to transport ours.

Regards
John

 

[fredfloggle]

I always use an RCD with this sort of equipment anyway.

I thought we were slowly moving down to 220V?

Be aware that an RCD placed before an isolating transformer will only protect up to the primary of the isolating transformer ......

 

[fredfloggle]

The standard at the minute is 230v and has been for the past few years. Your voltage will be anywhere between 210v and 245v but the standard is now 230v.

We use as standard 415V 3 phase and since our single phase supplies are derived from this we get :-

(1/(3^0.5)) *415 = 239 Volts -

We will drift down to a 380V supply in line with most of europe and end up with a 219 Volts single phase supply (which many will already have)

Of course by the time the board tolerances are applied , particularly if you are a long way from the sub then you may well get a lot less.

 

[fredfloggle]

LITTLE!! did you say little yellow box! The blooming thing weighs thirty thousand tonnes Well maybe not thirty thousand, but by crikey they are heavy. I bought my wife a little trolley to transport ours.

Regards
John

I've told you a million times not to exaggerate...

 

[stats007]

Be aware that an RCD placed before an isolating transformer will only protect up to the primary of the isolating transformer ......

I don't use 110V.

It appears that 220/380 and 240/415 are now subject to a Europe wide +/- 10% tolerance?

 

[Moose]

LITTLE!! did you say little yellow box! The blooming thing weighs thirty thousand tonnes Well maybe not thirty thousand, but by crikey they are heavy. I bought my wife a little trolley to transport ours.

Regards
John

 

[Moose]

Be aware that an RCD placed before an isolating transformer will only protect up to the primary of the isolating transformer ......

Which in simple terms means...

 

[stats007]

If you use a 110V transformer the RCD needs to come after it and not before.

 

[fredfloggle]

I don't use 110V.

It appears that 220/380 and 240/415 are now subject to a Europe wide +/- 10% tolerance?

Used to be +5% -10% but seems it can be larger - whatever happened to the Electric Light Act 1891?

Only mentioned the RCD because you will be amazed how many people assume that because equipment is plugged into a transformer and that is in turn plugged into an RCD , that equipment plugged into the tranny is also protected by the RCD which of course it is not.

 

[stats007]

Fair point - I used to work with three-phase and gensets for TPIs - concerts & outdoor events mainly.