Variable Speed Gantry Cameras - some info

[John Jones Jr]

What are real baddies? Car thieves - done. Drugs dealers - done. Human traffickers - done. Armed robbers - done. Terrorists - done. Paedo murderers - yep, them too.

Great stuff, the whole country should be very safe everywhere, night & day, simply as most criminals drive. A couple of more weeks with all these cameras - job done! Now, awaiting to hear news on cameras being decommissioned and a reduction in police numbers. Cameras, the only way!

 

[Giantvanman]

The problem with ANPR is the amount of work it generates. If it's car mounted (as per MPS Traffic Division), they can hardly drive half a mile down the road before encountering something. Often it is for no insurance (the garage has seen everything from Rolls/Rangies/Lambos- all pretty new- to the obvious wrecks and pool cars) but many times it is for what people would consider far more serious offences/offenders.

It wouldn't take much research to find the numbers, probably available on MetPol site, for example. My 'evidence' was more first hand observation……retired now.

 

[flango]

I was sat in a traffic car a while back on one of the major routes out if Sheffield, I was amazed at the number of ANPR hits pinging up on the screen tax and insurance offences but loads of intelligence hits with police markers on cars

 

[developer]

I was sat in a traffic car a while back on one of the major routes out if Sheffield

Red light offence? (and I don't mean traffic control) .

 

[flango]

Red light offence? (and I don't mean traffic control) .

Wrong area of Sheffield for that pulled for no Insurance on ANPR. Insurance company had put wrong details on MID had SWMBO down as only driver which they admitted over the phone was wrong . It was never going to be a problem as the policies on the Volvo and MB would have covered me to drive it third party anyway

 

[E55BOF]

I was pulled over for no insurance by a marked double-crewed car a few years ago, in my wife's MX3, which was insured, but two digits of the registration had been transposed (my fault ). They asked me the insurer's name, I said: "Churchill I think", they looked at me and my wife, the sergeant said: "Fair enough; you're not the type. Have a nice evening" and that was that.

 

[John]

B. In the olden days they used to say that only 25% of speed cameras actually have film in them - the rest are just flashing as a deterent. Film is obviously no longer an issue as the cameras are all digital now, but I wonder if even in the digital camera age some are set to 'deter' only?

I still see Gatsos with no camera in them (top left window as you look at them). So I guess so!

They're sneaky and not that easy to spot as they're grey, they could be the HADECS jobbies.

The certainly are!

A trip late last year to Trax saw a few driving in a spirited fashion up the M1 whilst passing an erratic-flashing HADECS 3 camera on the M1 - of the same type as are near the Bell Common tunnel.

 

[E55BOF]

Does one find these unsporting, un-English devices only in areas where gantries are fitted, or are they spreading to every stretch of motorway?

 

[Conquistador]

They're not mounted exclusively on gantries. On a small northern stretch of the M25, a few are fixed to the posts of the new LED message displays which hang over Lane 1

Can't trawl Google Earth to find one, but they are fixed to the posts of these and the newer LED versions:

 

[E55BOF]

Oh b***r! Even more to watch out for...

 

[stevehg]

A trip late last year to Trax saw a few driving in a spirited fashion up the M1 whilst passing an erratic-flashing HADECS 3 camera on the M1 - of the same type as are near the Bell Common tunnel.

FYI - Hadecs3 doesn't visibly flash. Only uses IR flash for low light conditions.

 

[John]

FYI - Hadecs3 doesn't visibly flash. Only uses IR flash for low light conditions.

Yes, for clarity, the flashing was on the same part of the motorway as the HADECS3 unit rather than unit itself.

 

[developer]

I'm reaching the stage where I just set up the car to not exceed the speed limit on motorways, and accept that's how it's got to be .

 

[ItalianTuneUp]

^ I know what you mean. As soon as I hit the motorway, cruise control comes on and stays on unless I need manual control of throttle.

 

[developer]

unless I need manual control of throttle.

Blimey, that's very Top Gun .

 

[meeeb]

Does one find these unsporting, un-English devices only in areas where gantries are fitted, or are they spreading to every stretch of motorway?

Hopefully.

 

[ChrisA]

Driving North up the M1 earlier this morning from Milton Keynes on the way home to East Yorkshire and the Nottinghamshire Gantry Spot cameras didn't trigger up to 95mph (A friend told me) so when do they trigger??

apologies if the answer has already been posted

 

[developer]

I think post #1 covers this Chris - perhaps they don't all flash .

I'll send you a file in a cake .

 

[C36fan]

I think post #1 covers this Chris - perhaps they don't all flash . I'll send you a file in a cake .

the same cameras are installed on the M25 a I have seen them flashing Jonh so I don't know how accurate is post #1 .

 

[markjay]

I have definitely seen the gantry cameras on the M1 between J10 and J8 going SOUTH flash on several occasions, however it was night time - they might not flash during the day. I did not notice if going North they flash as well.